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huteuszДата: Суббота, 16.02.2008, 12:33 | Сообщение # 1
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Hello, i've got in my e71 battery which looks like this:

http://www.allegro.pl/item308394809_akumulator_do_benq_siemens_e71_li_polymer_1200mah.html
I think, is that original battery for E71?
I saw an another link with original batteries:

http://www.allegro.pl/item310499164_eba_130_oryginalna_bateria_siemens_e71_s68_af51.html

Do anybody have this batteries? Which is better, an which is original? The original has smaller capacity, but probably... it's better. What do you think?

Maybe it's the same? wink


:( siemens is dead

Сообщение отредактировано huteusz - Суббота, 16.02.2008, 12:34
 
erwinpieroДата: Воскресенье, 17.02.2008, 09:11 | Сообщение # 2
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Experience ever, when i'm looking on ebay and found EL71 chinesse made from, it has 1000 mAh capacity, surely much more than the original one which is only 570 mAh. Then I ask my colleague in china and he said "Don't buy, capacity was fake".

Actually, never proof it, if u never try it, if You had a chance on buy it.

Or maybe You can try this alternative :



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huteuszДата: Воскресенье, 17.02.2008, 15:59 | Сообщение # 3
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Well, so this battery which i have isn't original?
I'll have to buy a new, cause it's working short since this month... sad


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sim_emromДата: Понедельник, 18.02.2008, 02:39 | Сообщение # 4
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Original battery for E71 has 730MAh. For S68 - 660MAh as I think...
Never saw 1000.
 
erwinpieroДата: Понедельник, 18.02.2008, 11:25 | Сообщение # 5
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Yes it's rather good to use original battery, but try to use it wisely smile

You can read a lot about how to prolong Lithium battery at here : http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm

Some conclusion stated :

A lithium-ion battery provides 300-500 discharge/charge cycles. The battery prefers a partial rather than a full discharge. Frequent full discharges should be avoided when possible. Instead, charge the battery more often or use a larger battery. There is no concern of memory when applying unscheduled charges.

Avoid frequent full discharges because this puts additional strain on the battery. Several partial discharges with frequent recharges are better for lithium-ion than one deep one. Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because there is no memory. (In this respect, lithium-ion differs from nickel-based batteries.) Short battery life in a laptop is mainly cause by heat rather than charge / discharge patterns.

Keep the lithium-ion battery cool. Avoid a hot car. For prolonged storage, keep the battery at a 40% charge level.

Avoid purchasing spare lithium-ion batteries for later use. Observe manufacturing dates. Do not buy old stock, even if sold at clearance prices.

If you have a spare lithium-ion battery, use one to the fullest and keep the other cool by placing it in the refrigerator. Do not freeze the battery. For best results, store the battery at 40% state-of-charge.


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Сообщение отредактировано erwinpiero - Понедельник, 18.02.2008, 11:37
 
huteuszДата: Пятница, 22.02.2008, 21:18 | Сообщение # 6
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I tried battery Nokia bl5c instead of bl4c and bl5c matches better biggrin it's identical in it's dimensions as e71 battery. But i am going to buy BS original battery. My battery is very weak, and it's getting bigger... wacko I have problems with closing back case sad

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erwinpieroДата: Суббота, 23.02.2008, 03:55 | Сообщение # 7
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Good then if You had try it huteusz, You had pregnant battery? I bet You often do overcharge Your battery, don't leave it sleep, while charging. Do charging as battery needs, and it's just about 1.5-2 hours.

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sim_emromДата: Суббота, 23.02.2008, 13:39 | Сообщение # 8
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Quote (erwinpiero)
I bet You often do overcharge Your battery, don't leave it sleep, while charging. Do charging as battery needs, and it's just about 1.5-2 hours.
If you are talking about standard e71/el71 batteries, than I don't agree. It's all the same for Li-Ion and Li-Pol batteries.
Ni-MH needs charging only if the battery is at ~0% level (minimum) and only for the maximum (100%)
Li-Ion may be charged absolutely at any time, but never let it "die" at <5%.
Both types must be charging less than 16-20 hours!
 
erwinpieroДата: Суббота, 23.02.2008, 15:21 | Сообщение # 9
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In present, i believe also proof that recently made chargers had automatic disconnect whenever charged battery was full filled, it's brilliant invention, but what if we charge handset in ON condition, that would be needs discharging some of energy, and charger response it by recharge it again till it's full filled. Are these process wasn't wise for battery lifetime?

Just opinion, let's discuss smile


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huteuszДата: Суббота, 23.02.2008, 16:05 | Сообщение # 10
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Sim_emrom, this was probably not original BS battery, but i've got it with phone... I don't know why there was a not original battery in my phone... I bought it as new dry
Well, probably you're right that i've overloaded it. What do you, erwinpiero think saying "pregnant" battery? It have flooded ( i don't know how to call it) under the paper.
I'll better take a foto with s65 smile Maybe it's a small difference in look, but... I can play a game around 10 mins, and there is 10% of battery less.
check this out


it's probably difference around 2mm. The battery is "fat". I don't know how to call it in English. maybe опухший means this same wacko
It was more slim before. You'll know what i mean. wink BTW. my battery isn't original (probably), and the BS one will work longer?

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:( siemens is dead

Сообщение отредактировано huteusz - Суббота, 23.02.2008, 16:11
 
erwinpieroДата: Суббота, 23.02.2008, 16:28 | Сообщение # 11
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Wow that's strange, You've got non original battery, did You bought it sealed, at the official service seller? In my country, official distributor always put sticker on handset spare part, to give a sign that it was an original spare part.

About "pregnant", yes it's almost the same meaning as You said Huteusz. To get sure Your battery really flat, just put in on the plain surface (ex : floor) than swing it, if it's circling then i can say it was "pregnant". smile


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Siemens SL75 Firmware 52 lg03 | Map v39 | FFS v39
Siemens SX1 Firmware 15 International
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huteuszДата: Суббота, 23.02.2008, 22:06 | Сообщение # 12
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No, i've got it from not official service. But it was new... wacko I don't know, but i've alerady bought it, and it's allright. I will have it in +- 5 days.
Thanks for help ;P


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erwinpieroДата: Воскресенье, 24.02.2008, 05:45 | Сообщение # 13
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Okey I hope soon You'll get better battery replacement.

BenQ Siemens EL71 Firmware v45 lg03 | Map v41 | FFS v41
Siemens SL75 Firmware 52 lg03 | Map v39 | FFS v39
Siemens SX1 Firmware 15 International
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huteuszДата: Пятница, 30.07.2010, 17:36 | Сообщение # 14
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Well i am maybe going to reactivate my e71 ;)
Do you know any problems caused by BL-4c and BL-5c ?


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sim_emromДата: Пятница, 30.07.2010, 23:51 | Сообщение # 15
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No, I think there is no such problem but to set it in :) It must fit well.
 
huteuszДата: Суббота, 14.08.2010, 00:01 | Сообщение # 16
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No explosions, problems with loading? :)
That's nice. I will buy a cheap one, and give this phone as a gift for someone in my family ;)


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